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The Insteon hub is a plain, white, square device with a single light on the front that is green when all is well and red when there's a problem (usually a network issue). I looked at the hub and the light was off. That's new. I unplugged it and plugged it back in. Nothing. I hit the reset button (which I had never before used). Nothing. It was dead as a doornail.
This was quite a surprise. My hub had served me well for over two years. Even worse, the two year warranty had expired a couple of months before. Bother!
However, all was not lost. All of my Insteon switches still worked. All of my scenes (like the ones to control the buttons on my 8 button keypad) still worked. What was broken? My Amazon Echo integration and my timed scenes. That was my big ouch because I had just set up scenes to turn on my Christmas lights (indoor and outdoor) at sunset and turn the off at 10pm. Well, no more automated Christmas lights. That was lousy timing!
Of course I want my Christmas lights on their timer again so I immediately started researching what I needed to do. What I found was that the Insteon devices and scenes are more or less hard coded to the hub. This means that I can't transfer my setup to a new hub, I have to start over. I've got about 12 Insteon devices and probably that many scenes set up. Not cool!
The forums where I found this information suggested that I reach out to Insteon support to see if they could help. It sounded like a good idea so I fired off an email. A couple days later Insteon responded that they were sorry my hub died and would send me a new one after I supply my receipt and a picture of it. I thought it was out of warranty but if I can get a free replacement - great!
A little while later I got confirmation that they were sending it and a couple days after Christmas, I received it. Kudos to Insteon support! However, up to this point my questions on how to transfer my account to the new hub had been ignored and the official Insteon documentation for installing a new hub instruct you to delete all of your devices and scenes from your old hub, delete your account, and recreate everything on the new hub. Not only did I not want to go through the pain of doing that, I couldn't because my old hub was dead and so I couldn't log into it to drop scenes and delete devices. So I reached out to support again.
This is where it got kind of weird. I asked if I really had to delete everything and how to do it if my old hub was dead. They responded with a "please confirm that you want to remove all your devices and delete your account" email with a listing of all my devices and their IDs (which allows me to re-set them up without having to manually pair each device). Actually, I wanted to know if that was my only option. That question was completely ignored. Not happy but tired enough of the half answers, etc. that I just said yes and the next day they confirmed that my old account was deleted.
So now I'm ready to set up my new hub. I created a new account and, since I already had the IDs for my devices, I was able to set them up quickly and then recreate my scenes. By quickly, I mean a couple of hours of documenting what I already had and about an hour of recreating everything.
Success! Everything works again! Now here's my issue: Do I want to purchase more items from Insteon which will make this process even worse the next time my hub dies? The short answer is no - what's the point in having a cloud service if the service is unrecoverable if your hub dies. The longer answer is - if not, what do I replace it with?
Is there a system out that that works just as well but doesn't have this issue? Echo Plus? Smarthings? Wink? Will they have the instant response time of the Insteon? Will they be around for the long haul (remember Revolv - it's gone now). That's the conundrum: Is the solution more worse than the problem? I'm crossing my fingers that I'll have a couple of years to figure it out before my hub dies again.
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If I had to choose today, I think I would choose the Vera Plus (getvera.com) but I'm not completely sold on anything at this point.
I think part of my problem is that I really do like Insteon. Maybe they'll introduce a way to back up your hub and solve my problem for me - I can always dream!
https://forum.insteon.com/forum/main-category/insteon-products/insteon-hub/104943-how-to-proceed-with-repair-replacement-of-a-hub-that-is-no-longer-powering-on
1. We have a migration path that we are currently beta testing. This will prevent the need to reset devices and rebuild if a hub fails. We hope to have this rolled out in the coming weeks.
2. Last year (mid 2017) we began shipping revision 2.4 of the Insteon Hub which directly addresses the source of the failure in some environments. This will improve the life of the product so that an account migration will never be necessary.
Thanks for the article and for being a valued customer.
-Insteon Team
(for some reason the google account wants to use girlfriends email, so I provided mine here and listed my identity as anonymous)
Roger
sodakroger@yahoo.com
Regards,
Insteon Support
Anything I can do?...
It allows you to make a backup of your ISY so you can restore it.
Lots of updates and support. You can use it with other devices (Z-wave, X10 etc).